Ohmygawdohmygawdohmygawd! Today’s the big day. Ok, technically, it’s not a big day for me, since I already got to experience what I’m about to share with you, but I’m still so excited that my Happy Shiny Puppy self may leave a puddle on the floor. Not intentionally, of course. These things happen.

Today is the day that I post my interview/chat with John Cali, who channels Chief Joseph, among others. For those of you who don’t know John and his work, boy are you ever in for a treat. The reason that I call this recording an interview/chat, is because I’m not a professional interviewer, a fact which will become apparent within the first few seconds of the call. I’ll apologize now for speaking so damn fast, but honestly, I was so excited that I forgot to do my professional recording voice and just let it all come bubbling out. I also didn’t want to do a really serious and formal interview. I love having leading edge conversations and so I set out to just have a chat with John and allow whatever needed to be said, both for us as well as for anyone who might be listening later, to come out. We talked for 3 amazing hours but I’ve managed to edit it down to the best bits and ended up with around 50 minutes of pure, unadulterated awesomeness.

John Cali Interview

(Right click on the link and download the mp3 file. Unless you have a Mac. Then, control + click.)

What you’ll hear:

While this call is just too long for me to transcribe (perhaps at a future date, but right now I just wanted to get it published and out there. Yay!), here are a few of the points we covered:

  • John describes his spiritual journey and how he got into channeling
  • In response to the questions I received after my post on empaths, I asked John what he does to protect himself from other people’s energy.
  • John explains his view of 2012, and his vision of the future
  • You’ll also hear how John goes about deliberately manifesting what he wants
  • John describes how he experiences channeling
  • We talked about why spirituality doesn’t have to be serious.

Did you enjoy this interview? What thoughts and questions came to mind as you listened? Share in the comments.

John publishes his writing and offers his channeling services at GreatWesternPublishing.org. During the call, he also refers to a documentary about channeling. It’s called Tuning In and you can find more information about it here.

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  • Hi Melody & John,

    It was such a joy to listen to your amazing conversation!

    Thank you so much for putting this up!



  • Thanks Melody and John, this was really fun! I’m sort of in the same boat with the two of you, and so I kept pausing the recording and added my own perspective to the mix. It felt like I was right there with you!

    Although, it would have turned into more of a discussion with me in it πŸ˜‰ I especially enjoyed noticing how you talked about the evolution of “channeling” over time.

    It made me think of all the channelers I checked out when I was new to the whole thing. There are so many more than you’d think, and they have workshops and CDs and videos and everything, too. But I could listen to them for 2 hours and not have any idea – at all – of what they’re talking about. Not even in the slightest. And I couldn’t imagine how *anyone* could get *anything* out of that – and yet, they have their audiences, who love what they had to say (whatever it was :).

    Nowadays, I’m so tuned in to the Abrahahm sort of philosophy, that I haven’t come across any of that other stuff again – ever. It’s like it doesn’t exist. It’s only by writing this post that I remembered all of them – they’re all still there, doing their thing, being the teachers that they are for those that are ready for what they have to say. What a magnificently diverse world we’re living in!

    • Hey Beachdrifter!

      Welcome to Deliberate Receiving! And thank you for your wonderful words. I’d love to record more discussions like this in the future, so watch this space. πŸ™‚

      You know, I totally get where you’re coming from. I love channeled information, but there are very few channels (especially considering how many there are) that I resonate with. I’ve heard others, and the info is good, but it just doesn’t grab me. Or, it goes into areas of technicalities (mathematical and physics formulas) that I don’t understand. Or, I don’t resonate with the interpretation, etc. Abraham is my all time favorite, but I think I found John and Chief Joseph around the same time. I would’ve love to have heard Seth speak and realize that all of my Seth books are packed away in boxes in the US. Dang. I might have to buy them again, just so I can re-read them. And then there’s Orin, (Sanaya Roman) whom I’ve never heard, but whose books I’ve read (or almost all of them). Good stuff. And that’s about it. Out of the hundreds (or thousands) of channelers who are publishing, that’s it. But, as you said, all those other teachers have their audiences as well. And isn’t it perfect? No matter who you are or how your thought processes work, how you learn best, what your personality, life experience, education and whatever is, there’s a perfect teacher for you. At least one. If not more. Whoohoo! πŸ™‚

      Huge hugs!

  • Hi Melody and John,
    I loved this conversation. I found Melody’s blog in December and it coincided with a new found state of allowing that is growing. I’ve had an amazing start to 2012 and I’m so excited to watch the unfolding of the rest of this year. Melody has mentioned before that quantum leaps can be uncomfortable and this has been the case for me. I’m a little woozy from the energy and I’m finding it difficult to intellectually process the synchronicities/experiences/reminders that occur on a daily basis. I feel the energy but I’m also very aware of the resistance that is within me. It’s almost anorgasmic. I feel the energy rise and then I block it. I’m trying to set my intent to allow the higher frequency but I’m still resisting. I find myself entering a sleepy, dream-like state and I feel like I’m in a symbolic haze (Does that make sense?) I’m wondering if this is the beginning of a more conscious conversation with my spiritual guides? How can I more effectively release the resistance/become comfortable allowing this higher frequency? I love the way the world is now. It is so nice to remember why I came and it is so cool to just keep finding confirmation that everything I’ve always believed is real. Love to both of you.

    • Hey Amanda,

      Great to hear from you. You know, it sounds to me like you are getting the answer to your questions. The sleepy, dream like state is a kind of meditative state and what I’d refer to as going on a “spiritual journey”. That’s what the shamans call it and yes, it’s a kind of communication with your higher self. You are starting to interpret higher frequencies. The brain has an easier time with symbols than language, so if you’re getting symbols now, just go with it. There’s more to come.
      Don’t push this and don’t try too hard. Just allow the images to come. If you don’t try too hard to interpret them (don’t try to think logically), but just allow them to flow to you, you’ll get clarity much faster. You can ask “What does this mean?” and then see if an answer floats up. Let it float to you. Don’t go looking for it, don’t try to pull it to you. Just allow the energy to flow. Your brain can interpret it but you have to let it. And whenever you access frequencies higher than you’re used to, it’s going to take some time to get used to them. I often feel a kind of pleasant burning sensation and pressure in my third eye when I go into new territory. The next day, I go back to the same place and the sensation is much less or gone completely. I’ve adjusted.

      Regarding the releasing of resistance, I’d say the best thing you can do (aside from directly working with someone like a coach or shaman) is to meditate regularly and consistently. That will help you to allow the energies to flow. When you mediate, let go of resistance. When you try hard to do anything, you are pushing against – you are resisting. So when you begin to feel like you’re working hard, back off and go daydream a bit.

      I hope that was helpful! Huge hugs!


  • Hi Melody and John. Wonderful interview. Indeed, you bring up a powerful point that everybody channels. There is a universal mind that we all have access to. Understanding that we are children of infinite intelligence attunes our mind to universal mind, the vast field of intelligence that pervades everything. This attunement awakens us to the presence of our limitless side. Our mind is always mingling with universal mind, but we must tune in. Infinite intelligence is our source of incalculable knowledge and truth. It’s omnipresent; it never hides from us.

    • Hey Rob,

      Thank you so much for your kind words. We truly do all have access to all the clarity and answers we’ve ever wanted. Once we truly get that, we stop looking for answers outside ourselves. We stop hoping someone will come along and tell us what to do. It’s a huge transition, of course, but once made, it makes life SO much more fun. πŸ™‚

      Huge hugs!

  • Thank you John and Melody! Wow!

    The first time I listened to your conversation I was lying down and fell asleep twenty minutes in. The next thirty minutes seeped into my subconscious and I had the most amazing ‘dreams.’ Later I listened to the whole recording awake. Lovely!

    More and more I’m coming to believe that having what we want is a matter of opening our eyes. We don’t need to attract what we think will bring happiness from a distance, because it’s already all around us. Your conversation is a great example of this: two generous souls sharing their joy, available at the tap of a key!

    I appreciate your words on being an empath. When I’m prepared, I can hold onto my joy, but I still get blindsided by intense emotions at odd unexpected moments. Thank you for the encouragement. All joy, all the time – woohoo! There’s a goal!

    Hugs and love to you both, and to all the wonderful commentors here on your blog!

    Mary Carol

    • Hey Mary Carol,

      So we put you to sleep, eh? Lol.

      I’m grateful to the internet every day. I think it’s a wonderful manifestation that allows us to believe that we can instantly have pretty much anything we look for. We can buy stuff and download things immediately. And because it allows us to believe in this instant delivery, it’s become a fantastic vehicle for us to actually let our manifestations of clarity and even stuff in.

      I’ve definitely noticed jumps in my own sensitivity and it can be uncomfortable. For example, a few weeks ago I had a jump like that and for a few days, when I connected with clients, I wasn’t just aware of what they were feeling, I felt it. Full on. So their anxiety coursed through my body, for example. That wasn’t fun. But after a few days, I got used to this new level of energy and the ride smoothed out again. We acclimate. And this new level of energy brings good things with it, too. Faster manifestations, incredible meditations (mine are getting REALLY fun!) and ever better conversations as thought goes where it’s never gone before. OMG. I love this time. πŸ™‚


  • Hi Melody and John,

    Thank you for such a beautiful and sacred conversation. I felt inspired to jot down some parts of the interview because I felt like you and John were reading my mind and describing exactly how I feel and some of the parts were just so profound.

    “I love what I’m experiencing from my perspective. It is exciting. It has enhanced my sense of inner peace, and well being.This is the happiest time of my life.” John, I feel exactly the same way.

    “I love what I’m doing and who I am. I love the awareness I have of who I am and who other people are. I’ve learned to accept people for who they are whether they agree with me or not…and Love them.” Again I am feeling more and more this way in my life.

    “I meditate at least an hour every day.”
    “No matter where I am if I stay in my own center, peace, divine love then I am not affected.”

    I can relate to this as I work in the mental health and addcitions field and often work with individuals in a lot of pain and turmoil. I’m learning more and more to stay in my own center, but sometimes I do feel their pain.

    “We’re all Gods and Goddesses in uniform”
    “Remember who I am. I am God. I am unlimited. The only way I can help those around me is to be who I am and to be peaceful, and joyful.”

    “We’re growing by leaps and bounds.”
    “Meditation consists of breathing in and out – connecting to my higher self.”
    “The more I’m aligned with my higher self the more effective I’m going to be.”

    Melody, I can relate to your experience about malls. I feel exactly the same way when I’m in malls.

    I LOVE, LOVE both of your vision for the future!!! I feel the same way! …lol…I feel like I’m a parrot! I totally agree…. the future “is going to be absolutely spectacular!”

    You guys are both AWESOME!

    I Love you both!!

    Peace, Love & Gratitude,


    • Hey Neseret,

      I’m so glad you enjoyed it! I think that the energy of the call is pretty apparent even on the recording. I adored talking to John. He’s so humble and generous with his insights. I adore having conversations like this. πŸ™‚

      Thanks for transcribing part of the call, LOL.

      Huge hugs! (and don’t forget that you are awesome, too!)


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