In today’s Conscious Conversation, I’m joined by Makhosi Candiss, an American black woman who also happens to be a trained Zulu Shaman. She shared powerful insights about the belief structure of racism, and her experiences of being an American woman of color in Africa (hint: she encountered a whole different definition of “white”). Listen in on this fascinating, sometimes controversial, but also high-vibing conversation. This is definitely one you don’t want to miss.

Thanks so much for watching this installment of Conscious Conversations. If you’re a person of color or other group whose voice needs to be heard, and you’d like to participate in a public conversation like this, or if you know someone who would be perfect for this format, please contact me through my website, (or just reply to one of my emails).

Otherwise, I’d love to hear what you think in the comments below. Did you enjoy this format? Were there any aha moments? Were you left with more, unanswered questions that you may want us to answer in future conversations? Did you get uncomfortable? If you’re a person of color, do you feel your perspective was represented? What about if you’re white?  Let me know in the comments.

All voices are welcome, but we do ask that you keep it respectful and constructive. In other words, what you have to say is important, just don’t be a dick about it.

Until next time, I’m Melody Fletcher, and thank you for bringing your light to the world.

More Info on Makhosi Candiss:

Makhosi, of, is a Spiritual Guide & Authentic Shaman that helps Soul-Seeking, High Achievers create an Extraordinary Business & Life using mindset, mindfulness & metaphysics mastery. Through Shamanic DNA Activation & Energetic Alignment, she assists high achievers to discover their purpose, decode their essence and break through the blocks keeping them from creating limitless abundance, unparalleled freedom & exceptional impact.

She bridges Ancient Spiritual Wisdom in a Modern Practical Way to resonate with people from all walks of life by applying fundamental, spiritual truths to help high achievers consciously create satisfying success in the real world. The wisdom she shares is all-inclusive, nonreligious, and practical; her clients walk away with a completely different perspective of their life and the world and obtain the tools they need to be happy, successful, and fulfilled spiritual beings having a human experience. 

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  • Melody, I’ve loved these conversations. Thank you so much for creating the space. They have been educational, enlightening and deeply moving. I need to watch all three again and I hope they hang around here for a while.

  • Hey Melody,

    This is not related to race, but I watched your old video about Negative Emotions: A Sense of Entitlement (, and I got some insight into a previous incident at work.

    Basically I was working at a hospital on a short term contract, and I got reprimanded by my boss as somebody saw me stretched out on the sofa in the staff lounge and sleeping. She scolded me and said that the frontliners were stretched thin and working hard (due to the COVID-19 crisis), and here I was, giving a bad impression of the department to others. I felt really unhappy about having no control over how I could spend my time ( it was a 8.30-6pm office job in the admin dept of the hospital) and having to actually do work to earn money, and also felt bad about being so entitled to play and relax and not do work when others were working hard.

    Now, after watching your video, I realized the issue was that I was trying to control how money/income came to me, which was the reason why I accepted that job and kept getting into so much trouble over not wanting to work yet wanting money (security), and also with my parents as well on this issue. I’m going to ease off trying to control how money/security comes to me, and hopefully I can have my cake and eat it too and get income without having to work a single bit.

  • Great conversation. Aside from wounds, there is also the issue of understanding White privilege and trying to use it to help Black people. And also understanding systemic racism. Without dealing with these things, racism continues to be a huge issue.

    • Hey Sammi!
      Yep, it’s the systemic racism that I’m really exploring these days. Especially because every individual is responsible for their own vibration, but the systems can make it harder or easier. That’s my view, of course, but that’s the picture emerging for me. It’s also the hardest to understand, because systemic structures can be hard to see. Once you see them, you can’t unsee them, but because they’ve been around for so long, they can be so easy to miss.

  • Thank you Makhosi and Melody! Makhosi: I found your interview incredibly validating and it made me feel I am not alone in this world.

    This following comment isn’t about race but hopefully it’s useful however. I caught on Makhosi’s description of herself as a shaman. I personally think why so many nations struggle nowadays is that we’ve been conditioned to abandon our ancient yet working practices. I am from Finland which was once renowned for execellent Shamans and a long-standing Shamanic tradtion. I’ve always been called into that field even as a child but, due to the social conditioning I mentioned, learned to tone it down. There’s a well-known Finnish shaman Mr. Johannes Setälä, who has said that the cease of shamanic drum beat has manifested as alcoholism, depression and other mental health problems in our society. Unfortunately, I couldn’t agree more. 🙁

    Anyway, thanks Makhosi so much for your great interview! Keep on doing what you’re doing, the work you do is very important and needed. All the best to you, and of course to Melody as well 🙂

    Lady R

    • That’s awesome Lady R! Thank you so much for sharing your powerful insights. I’ve forwarded your comment to Makhosi to make sure she sees it. 🙂


      • Thank you so much for your reply Melody! If Makhosi wants to reply my comment and has the time to do so, that would be awesome. Nonetheless, I would not force her to do so, I’m really not that aggravating a person lol 😀

        I have to admit the comment I posted earlier required an enormous amount of courage from me. You see, even on this site and on this blog, I sometimes feel ashamed about myself and my core personality & spiritual gifts. It still feels all too intimidating to come out as who I really am. However, I’ve slowly started to acknowledge this is ultimately unsustainable. This is why Makhosi’s interview struck a chord within me. Even though my thoughts have nothing to do with race.

        I’ll try to be more authentic in the future, whether on here or on any other communication network I tend to frequent 🙂

        Lady R

  • I am from South Africa, with a population of almost 60 million people. Of these about 48.5 million are black people, 4.5 million are white people, 4.5 million coloured people, 1.3 million Indian descent people (of many generations in South Africa) and about 1.3 million Chinese and other Asian groups (some also many generations in the country). The number of illegal immigrants from especially Nigeria, Malawi, Congo, Zimbabwe, Zambia and China etc do not usually make it to an officical sensus, so the population is likely much larger. What we also experience is clasism and race consciousness. Race consciousness for example between black Zulu and Xhosa and Sotho people. And clasism where there are incredibly rich black, white, coloured, Asian, etc groups, a middle class of the same groups and a very poor class, consisting of black, coloured, white, Asian. Would a rich class experience racism or race consciousness at the same level as a poorer class?

    • Hey Mary,
      That’s a great question. In my experience and from the conversations I’ve had, yes. Economics makes a HUGE difference. It doesn’t erase racism, but the way I see it, racism is one (very big) way that we beat up on each other. But it’s not the only way and it’s the result of underlying energy structures. So, we will also use class and ecomonic status, among others, to judge and disenfranchise each other. Having more money lifts you up to a higher status, and so can totally impact how much racism you might experience, depending on culture, how much money you have in relation to others, etc. All the variables come together in combination, but it’s quite complex. Meaning, more money doesn’t automatically equal less racism, but it can and often does have an impact. Of course, if you have rich black people and rich white people, the rich white people may still be considered as having a higher status than the rich black people.

      I welcome anyone else to share their insights (any rich black folks out there who want to comment? 🙂 )


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